Saturday, September 16, 2017

How bad is pop music today?

Does modern music suck or are such complaints merely what one hears every generation? Watch Thoughty2's analysis on Youtube below and decide for yourself. 



19 comments:

Anonymous said...

It's terrible because of no artistic ability. I'm 52 and have just started appreciating the British bands of the 60's and 70's and how they used their education and knowledge to write and perform music with real instruments. Some even used full orchestras. Can't say here our youth has been enlightened to good literature and music education. By the way, I'm just a high school graduate and I do appreciate the proper use of the English Language. As some Brits that I met in the Bahamas last month said, " The British and American youth have bastardized the English Language." Take Rap for example. Nothing is positive. Nothing is good. Therefore, that type of music has greatly contributed to the down fall of the black race. Remember the R&B and Soul of the 60's and 70's? Nothing and I mean nothing was to be ashamed of listening to. It spoke of love and peace in many of their songs...maybe not all, but most. It was great music by artists who loved music and were in it for the love of the music and not the money! That music STILL sounds good and is timeless. I hope I made sense of this and I know there will be detractors. But that's what is great. We can express our opinion. Thank you KF.

Anonymous said...

Research also shows that spelling, grammar and journalism have declined significantly in the same period. For example at 2:23 in this video T2 speaks of the "Hamonic" complexity. No wonder it is suffering. There is no such thing. HaRmonic complexity may have changed however. #Chuckingstonesfromglasshouse

Anonymous said...

https://youtu.be/075YC2aPuEA

Procul Harum 2001 Concert in Denmark with the Danish National Orchestra. Proof that they get better with age.

Anon-E-Mouse said...

It's not just pop music. Country music is in fail mode too as it plagiarizes itself.

http://www.cmt.com/news/1747657/proof-that-all-country-music-sounds-the-same/

Anonymous said...

About as bad as LSU under Special Ed Orgeron.

Who could have seen this coming, amirite?

Anonymous said...

The only constant in music is that each generation of music hates the next! The bobby soxers hated Elvis, the Elvis fans hated the Beatles, the mods hated punk, the rockers hated hip hop, etc. etc.

Anonymous said...

About as bad as LSU's defense.

Well, offense too.

Kingfish said...

Then there is the matter of lip-syncing at concerts but that is a lost cause and has been going on for decades.

Anonymous said...

It's sad almost all new singers can't sing worth a damn with our enhancement.

Anonymous said...

Went to u2 in NO. Nice to see a band write their own songs, play their own instruments and sing on their own. Best rock band of our generation.

The young bands/teeny bobbers are nothing but puppets. They don't do anything except make money for their management teams. They buy their songs, synthesize their voices on albums, lip sync in concert and have no idea of what to do with any type of musical instrument.

Anonymous said...

I'm sorry, but that mushmouthed creature with the filthy, disgusting Shoney's Big Boy up-do hairdo, was INCOMPREHENSIBLE. Really, whenever there's a lower-class Brit accent, we need captions.

In addition to speech therapists, there are plenty of gyms in England. And shampoo is available there, too. Coasting through life, oblivious to the existence of things which could ameliorate the inadequacies of his speech, his hair, and his body, is HIS CHOICE, of course. However, choosing to ignore such a zhlub, is MY choice.

I don't see much difference between pop recorded in the current era, and pop recorded since the days of Elvis. The "experts" telling pop musicians how to behave, and telling them how to pronounce their words, seem forever stuck in the moment when Elvis was instructed to dye his hair black, and steal songs (and mannerisms) from African Americans (in order to stop white girls from swooning over Black musicians).

In Pop, whether the music is from the Sixties or from last week, 'body' is pronounced "bawdEH". 'Me', becomes "meh". I had added songs by 'The Flirts, an '80s girl band, to my Synth Pop playlist, until the lead singer's "meh" pronunciation of 'me' became too grating. They've been deleted. And I'd added several fast-moving Lady Ga Ga compilations, until I couldn't stand hearing her belt-out "bawdeh". Ga Ga's gone, too..

The wonderful thing about musicians from the Punk Era, and about Rob Zombie, Ozzie Osbourne, and Marilyn Mansion, was that they DIDN'T PRETEND TO BE BLACK. Failure to 'appropriate' Black Culture was, and is, an act of rebellion, since the orthodoxy - the norm to which one must apparently CONFORM - is a strange, codified, stagnant, transmogrified PSEUDO version of 'Blackness' (...as dictated by the handlers and experts, who turn unique bands into cookie-cutter bands. They're working on 'The Band Perry', right now.).

What's endearing about Kesha, is that she's actually involved in an elaborate and hilarious parody of establishment musicians' pretending to be Black. Her tongue-in-cheek cultural appropriation of 'Gangsta' is fun to watch, because we're in on the joke. She is to Pop Music, what Landover Baptist is to For-profit Religion: a wicked spoof.

Pitiful little Justin Bieber, on the other hand, is the sort of creature Kesha's parodying. And truly, he needs to put his pants back on, because wagging that microscopic gherkin around, is NOT going to help him approximate a gangsta swagga.



Anonymous said...

11:01 PM, I strongly disagree with the Elvis fans hating the Beetles. Just was not true and I lived through both. Music then seemed to easily slide from one popular type into new types without much adjustment. We loved learning the new dances to each group. The real change came with Rap and its horrible lyrics and gestures. It may belong to some black culture but it contributes nothing positive to society.

Anonymous said...

I saw U2 as well and the show was spectacular.

Met some parents who were in attendance with their young adult children who had been raised listening to The Joshua Tree album.

Multigenerational appeal is key to staying power in the music industry.

(Side note: Check out "Beth U2 Cleveland" on YouTube. Bono probably hasn't recovered.)

Anonymous said...

Kids like different music than their parents.

It's a normative thing.

Today we have instruments which are far different than before.

There will always be angst and unease about new music....it's almost expected.

One thing always happens to real musicians...they eventually pay homage to the people who influenced them and the founders of music as we know it. (After Cyndi Lauper made a Blues Tribute Album....I fell out)

Anonymous said...

People should listen to Ice-T's "Body Count" album. It's amazing--and is far more about social injustice of the LA police culture in the 1990's than just 'killing cops.' Ernie C shreads as good as anyone on guitar.

Anonymous said...

Today's "good music" usually just isn't in the mainstream produced for mass consumption. You usually have to go in search of it like at various music festivals. And that music usually doesn't fall into the "pop" genre. (and no, I'm not talking about iheartradio, either.)

Today's pop music is too synthesized, where as in the early 90's it wasn't least trying to be "authentic" ( Alanis Morissette, etc.) and this is coming from someone who likes techno when in the mood. People don't want the raw human experience anymore. They want pre-packaged soulless bs. And why would the artists or their producers change the formula? They're being rewarded for little to no input in the market of a nice body and 5 lbs of makeup.

Only when people demand different will things change.

Anonymous said...

Elvis changed things.....The Beatles changed things to another level...one day I was combing my hair back like Daddy & Elvis...the next day it was down in my face like the Beatles...still is....and many followed in their style, a style built on a foundation of Mississippi Blues music.....except for the Beach Boys...doing their very own west coast ideallic lifestyle harmony.....with some of those previously mentioned styles mixed in to appeal to the masses....Amen!

Anonymous said...

top-40 music is marketed to teenagers and people in their early 20's. by the time people have kids, their disposable income floats away from music and goes into their children..who in turn get the money from their parents for top-40 music.

that's why U2 can still tour these days--they have an adult following who have disposable income again to spend on hearing them live. What was their set list in New Orleans? all new songs or did you hear some of what you expected to hear?

believe it or not, there are bands/artists who are under 25 who aren't top-40 people. google "ally x" if you don't believe it.

the top-40 from your youth will always be better than what comes after or before--in your own opinion

Kingfish said...

"About as bad as LSU under Special Ed Orgeron.

Who could have seen this coming, amirite? "

What exactly were you saying?



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