Tuesday, January 7, 2014

Library employee: Jim Crow runs the system

Library employees and Hinds County Supervisor Kenneth Stokes teamed up today as they accused the management of the Hinds County Library System of engaging in Jim Crow practices against black employees and patrons:





Here is video of a December 2013 discussion of the library system where many of the same allegations were made:


62 comments:

Anonymous said...

My gawd ya'll! where in the world do these stupid ass people come from? Jim Crow? Bwahahahahaha!

Anonymous said...

This is just unbelievable in this day. But it's what they are taught to do by the people they elect to office. Hearsay is all that made up phone call she says happened. What a great story she tells. She needs to be a fulltime storyteller for some elementary school.

Anonymous said...

And to think that there was a commenter here yesterday efforting to claim that Stokes was, somehow, the rational member of the Sups. ROFLMAO

Thanks to JJ both Stokes and Graham are losers in 2015!

Anonymous said...

Invoking the name of Jim Crow, a native American, and using it as a political tool is RACIST!

Pugnacious said...

Spies of Mississippi will be shown on PBS tonight, according to nmisscommentor.

It'll be intresting to see what is left on the "cutting-room" floor.

Anonymous said...

Do these people even understand the identity of Jim Crow????

Anonymous said...

I have a question. If what she said that was done to this lady because she is black is called Jim Crow, what would it be called if a QUALIFIED white person did not get a high paying, responsible job because they are white?

Anonymous said...

How is accusing the library system of discrimination considered being a racist? That comment was ignorant. What is happening in that library system has nothing to do with,Kenneth Stokes. This mess has been going on for too long and it appears that these people are fed up with being treated like second class citizens. How is it right that the library director want to get rid of the homeless and low income patrons? That is DISCRIMINATION! And,not to allow a diabetic staff member to have their REQUIRED lunch break is against the law. Come on, citizens and politicians of Hinds County,open your eyes and stop allowing this mess to happen.

Anonymous said...

There is no law that REQUIRES an employer to give anyone a lunch break.

Report To My Office said...

The Americans with Disabilities Act does indeed require an employer to reasonably accommodate those employees with disabilities. This includes allowing diabetics time and space to administer necessary medications.

But, 10:59 is correct, there is no law requiring lunch or other rest periods in Mississippi, for the disabled or anybody else.

Anonymous said...

Um, why in the world would you WANT a homeless person in the library? The library isn't a shelter.

Anonymous said...

More continued focus by the City on inane items which, whether of merit or not, should not be the focus of a city in Jackson's conditions.

Jackson needs to work big to small, instead of absurd to slightly less absurd. Once we address budget issues and maybe get the water lines to quit busting, then we can hold hearings on who had their feelings hurt at the library/shelter.

Thank you to Kingfish for keeping a light on the absurdity. Otherwise we risk complacency while the city crumbles.

The Libertarian said...

These aren't just homeless, they are drug addled, mentally ill maniacs who randomly scream at people that aren't there. And what does "low income" have to do with it. The library costs $0. So, clearly its BEHAVIOR, not the #'s in your checkbook. And there's this one hippie, ya know, those dopers who are homeless as a lifestyle choice...causes its "freedom, mon"...who Im gonna beat with a large-print copy of War and Peace one day.

Anonymous said...

So now some heartless people want to kick out some poor guy named Jim Crow! What did Jim Crow ever do to these people? Why do people hate on Jim Crow? I know why....his last name is Crow....and a Crow is black.... So they must hate black people!!!! RACIST!!!

Anonymous said...

Why did this person not apply on the day the notice of opening went up? If she was so interested in the job, why did she had she not applied in 3 weeks? Was the position listed as until filled or was it listed as the applications would be taken until August? That would make a big difference. I would like to see that job posting and the situation could be judged. Does the city of Jackson list job openings on the internet or where are they posted? I work in HR and would like to see the city's policy.

Anonymous said...

job posting 5/10/2013

job available 7/1/2013

posting expiration 8/1/2013

Anonymous said...

If you work in HR you probably know how to search the web for municipal, state and federal job openings, if listed.

Anonymous said...

lunch laws fall under federal laws not state laws.

Anonymous said...

I was under the impression that lunch times were regulated by federal work laws. If an employee works over 6 hours they are given a lunch break according to law and the company not doing so can be fined.

Anonymous said...

Some of the commenters on here seem so heartless and sort of stupid. The library is a public building,therefore,you can't keep the homeless or low income families because that is a form of discrimination. They are the very people who utilize the library the most. Doesn't shock me one bit that most of you just want to look the other way and pretend that nothing is going on. Mississippi,truly is one of the most racist states,ever.

Anonymous said...

@6:47....you're right about the lunch breaks.

Anonymous said...

@10:07 am...I do believe the lady who is speaking know what Jim Crow is.

Jim crow is the systematic practice of discriminating against and segregating Black people, especially as practiced in the American South.

So,it what she says matches the above definition...

Anonymous said...

Some of the commenters on here seem so heartless and sort of stupid.

And others, such as yourself, seem so ignorant and, well, plain old dumb.

Anonymous said...

And others, such as yourself, seem so ignorant and, well, plain old dumb

Awww, what part of my comment upset you? Please, let me apologize to you for me actually having a brain,you ignorant hick! I hope that your New Year brings you great things,such as therapy....

JuicyJuJa said...

@ 8:20am... To the imbecile that made the comment about the phone call being hearsay,it wasn't hearsay. You know nothing,so shut your mouth..

Anonymous said...

I probably missed it but ... regarding the statements by the "Story Teller" and the concerned citizen in the video ... where is the evidence that these actions actually took place? I heard a lot of allegations but actually saw only one piece of paper being waved around by Ms. Crow proclaimed to show plans of some expenditures being proposed. I may have missed the hard evidence, but until putting eyes on such proof, these charges seem to be unsupported in fact.

Anonymous said...

Ignorance abounds here. You people (I know that irritates you) should either consult an employment law attorney or get someone to help you use Google. Federal law does NOT require rest or lunch breaks. Although most (practically all) employers do allow rest periods and lunch breaks, various states (California for example) do have laws regulating such periods required. But, those are state laws. Mississippi does not have a law regulating rest breaks or lunch breaks.

The commenter implied that someone with a disability is required by law to have a lunch break. That is inaccurate.

There ARE, however, federal regulations that address pay for breaks that an employer does allow.

You might also be interested in knowing that federal law (and there is no Mississippi law) does not require vacation time, paid sick leave or maternity leave, as such. You might want to bitch about that as well.

Some of you might also want to educate yourself as to which groups are covered by federal discrimination laws. Those are referred to in the law as protected groups. Being homeless and being low income are not protected groups under federal anti- discrimination laws. Sorry, but nice try.

No law, federal, state or local requires that public buildings be accessible to the homeless or low income as a comfort station.

Moomoo said...

@2:59.... You can't keep a certain set of people from coming into a library,just because you don't like them. It just doesn't work like that. In fact,even when someone does something to warrant having themselves barred or kicked out of a library for any reason,you have to actually go through the proper channels to do so. Because a library or any place of business can get sued,if they're not careful. That is just fact because it has happened many times. So,before you comment next time and attempt to "act" as if you're smarter than other why don't YOU learn to use Google or whatever.

Anonymous said...

@10:27pm

The supposed "Storyteller" and many others actually do have proof of the allegations made. That is why they want an investigation done. At least that is my understanding of this matter.

Anonymous said...

If there was truly proof the mainstream media would have been all over the story already. There is no smoke and no fire.

Anonymous said...

@5:45 am

IF proof truly does exist, why hasn't Ms. Crow (Not "Supposed" but, instead, Self identified as a "StoryTeller") & the rest provided it to the media? I'm sure, as 8:50 am posted, the media would be more than happy to publish it. After all, simple transparency & justice is what everyone wants, correct? "Dog & Pony" show claims vs. "Solid, verifiable, openly disseminated evidence" for all to plainly see seems to me to be the simplest way forward with this matter, IF simple transparency & justice truly is the goal. At least that is my understanding of this matter.

Anonymous said...

Maybe she wasn't hired because the board knew she wouldn't do a good job (not because of her race).

Anonymous said...

@2:55

Perhaps ... but several times in life I've seen people very capable of doing a job not get selected for the big chair for one reason or another, usually because the powers that be simply think the selected party's butt fits the chair better, in a rhetorical way. It's not uncommon. Stuff happens. Some of the time, the aggrieved or their supporters get miffed, but they can suck it up and move on or, perhaps ... it was Jim Crow all those times as well and everyone needed to make fancy dancy signs and show up at meetings and be a "Storyteller"

Anonymous said...

@ 11:15 am..... Look for some of the proof to appear in the newspapers in the next couple of days. The PROOF does exists

Believer said...

I don't understand why everyone thinks that this old white lady is making this up. Maybe she really has discrimination,it sounds like it to me. I mean why would she lie about that?

Echoram said...

I use the library system a lot and if what is going on is true it is a damn shame that these workers are being treated this way. What is even more shameful is how people just want to look away from a problem and pretend that nothing is going on. Someone could at least take the take and check this mess out.

CakeEater said...

If an employee works during a lunch break that is supposed to be unpaid, an employer may be obligated to pay additional wages, including unintended overtime, to that employee.

Maybe, the lady who is getting screwed out of getting a break should have them pay her for all the extra hours. If, I am correct, the library system is supposed to give an hour lunch break and 2 fifteen minute breaks. At least that was what their policy was when I was employed there. In fact it is written in the employee handbook.

Anonymous said...

From what I can understand, she was never not allowed to apply for,the position. It is just that the position was filled. She thought she had until a certain date to submit her appication. Obviously, the board wasnt operating under a deadline. If there was a conspiracy to keep her out of consideration and that conspiracy was based on her race , age or sex , then that sounds illegal.

In any case, it doesnt sound like the board didnt handle this situation very smartly. Regardless of how the EEOC
rules, she will be able to sue . i did hear that the County has insurance

Anonymous said...

Everything being said here is a total and complete lie. I know several people who work there. Employees get 15 minutes of break time every four hours and one hour lunch if they work all day. The library director is a real sweet person. She asked the library employees to bring scarves, hats and gloves for the homeless instead of gifts for themselves this year and greets the homeless on a frequent basis. Very sad that these disgruntled employees have to lie about the situation.

Anonymous said...

@6:36
Why just show "some" of the proof?
Wouldn't it be better to see "all" of the proof?
Is this a game of "Pick & Choose"?

As a side ... does the library provide Kindels? If not, how dare a supervisor own one? If so, how dare he still? This COULD be "proof" of Kindel Inequaliity.

Anonymous said...

@10:42.....The thing about the employee getting screwed out of her lunch break because she has most of the time NO other employee is TRUE. It was not the directors idea to bring scarves,hats,gloves,etc to the homeless,it was another employee that wanted it to be done. Now she herself is the one who wrote the statment about wanting to "change" the patrons of Welty. Unfortunately,the way she decided to word it,it appears that she wants to completely get rid of the homeless and low income families that use that library. Btw,this director picks and chooses who she is sweet to,she DOES NOT treat everyone equally. No one is being a disgruntled employee,I think some are just tired of being treated as though we are nothing.

Anonymous said...

Bull shit claims and trumped up charges have harmed many a good manager. And the race pimps who encourage such bogus actions know that will be the result.

This cannot be about giving out scarves at Christmas or a vagrant sleeping in the stacks or who missed their break. If there is proof of illegal discrimination in the hiring process, it must be produced to be actionable.

It's absurd to claim someone who did not apply for a job suffered from illegal discrimination in the hiring process. If her attempt at filing an application was refused, prove it.

EQ said...

To the person who wrote the comment at 10:42pm:

You must be an employee who currently works there. If so,you must be one of the few employees that the director lets do and say whatever they want with no consequences. Anyone can pretend to be nice,but they can only keep it up for so long,until they show their true colors. You claim that everything that is being said is a lie. Well,why don't you ask Ms. Mumford how often she works from opening to closing with no breaks? I bet if that ever happened to you you wouldn't like it either.

Anonymous said...

EQ: Breaks in this state are not required by law. Get over it. If a non-exempt employee works more than 40 hours in a work week, they must either be paid overtime, or granted comp time (if they are government employees - which I assume these are). If they're not paid in accordance with that rule, there is an avenue through which to challenge that. If the employees at the library are required to work an eight hour day without breaks, that's legal and if you don't like it, that's tough. Have I said 'get over it' yet?

Anonymous said...

Jackson-Hinds Library President Harriet Kuykendall is the antithesis of racism. Doubtful that Kenny Stokes, who is the grand poobah of racism, knows that Harriet has fought for civil right her entire life. Doubtful that Stokes knows Harriet gave the eulogy at Willie Morris' funeral or that she has numerous friends that were actual civil rights activists in the 60s. One of them is Ed King, who was very close to Martin Luther King and Medgar Evers. Doubtful that Stokes knows that Harriet surrounds herself with such people.

Anonymous said...

Stokes doesn't know these things. He does know that the taxpayers are paying his and LaRoota's salary and remembers that each time the duo waddle up to the all you can eat buffet.

Anonymous said...

Of course Stokes does not know those things. Nor does he care to know them. It's all beside the point. He, his wife, and others of their mentality only know that a black person ought to hold down every job in the City of Jackson. Not only government jobs (city, county, teachers, police, library, every board, etc) but EVERY job in the city and county.

The purpose of this post is not to criticize Stokes (although he deserves that). The purpose is only to spotlight reality and to suggest we all acknowledge it. Work around the Stokes' twins until they can be gotten rid of, then get rid of them (through the election process, of course).

Anonymous said...

8:19...you nailed it. Well said!

blmjforchange said...

(At 7:22 am)

What in the world does Kuykendall giving the eulogy at Willie Morris' funeral have anything to do with civil rights? By the way,she isn't the president anymore,she is still somehow on the Board though. Her friend is the president,but Kuykendall is still calling the shots.For her to have the nerve to claim that she fought for civil rights is laughable at best. I've seen her reactions towards black folks and other minorities. She acts as though we are all on welfare and she herself is paying our way through life. She treats most library staff as though they do not exist and that they are beneath her. As someone said before,Kuykendall has "plantation views." She is not the picture perfect model for civil rights and anti racism. She is the picture perfect model for civil "wrongs" and racism. Kuykendall surrounds herself with the type of people that she can dictate and control by using her money to do so. Almost every picture of her that you see is of her rubbing elbows with white people who are exactly like herself. I've never noticed her socializing with anyone who is of a different race than herself. So,when you say that she surrounds herself with different types of people,that is a lie. And,if you know her SO well how did you not know that she was no longer the president of the Board?

Anonymous said...

If you want to get rid of Stokes then you need to be ready, regardless of where you live in Hinds County, to invest money and time into the campaign(s) of his opponents come 2015. Outside of Ward 3 he is vulnerable and can be defeated.

Anonymous said...

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fromanotherworld said...

Is Kenneth Stokes in fact a robot? If he can be defeated by his components we must all rush to radio shack. And build our own opponent to run against him. However, what will we do about the rest of the supervisors especially Robert Graham bec I'm pretty sure he's a robot too. Cuz all he does is bob his head, there must be something wrong with his wiring. Humans rule!

EQ said...

@ Jan 9..9:50am....

The thing about the breaks is in the policy and procedure manual for the Library. So,you "get over it" and get a life. Comment on things that you know about.

Anonymous said...

@Blmjforchange
Willie Morris’ books are taught in college-level African-American Studies classes.

In the late 60s, Harriet was one of the only white teachers at the all-black high school in Yazoo City.

Not sure where your going with the race of Harriet's friends. FWIW, Ed King, who was a major figure in the civil rights movement in Mississippi, is white.

Apologizes for not knowing that Harriet is no longer president of the board. That tidbit may be important in your worldview, but, to the rest of the world, who is on the library board is very very minor.

Highschoolfriend said...

@ 1:28pm

What does Willie Morris have to do with anything? The fact that Harriet Kuykendall gave his eulogy has nothing to do with what she is being accused of. I just don't get your point. How does her delivering a white man's eulogy prove that she is not a racist? As for as being a white teacher at an all black school,so what? None of this means anything. If she is such a fighter for civil rights why did she deny a black woman a chance for a job? Why would the library make all of this up?

Anonymous said...

I BET Harriet owns a Kendel too!!
Durn Her!

classybitch said...

To: The idiot who spelled "Kindle" the wrong way....

Who gives a crap if that old hag owns a KINDLE? You, seriously, need to learn how to spell. I don't get why most people from this place are so stupid and seem to be proud of it.

Anonymous said...

EQ; I'm 9:50. The remarks I made regarding pay for breaks and overtime and whether or not breaks are allowed were based on federal law, not some employee handbook.

Claims were made numerous times on here that federal law requires breaks and others believe both lunch and rest periods must be allowed by law, perhaps even paid. If you will produce such a federal or Mississippi law, I will eat your Dashiki. None exist.

Now if you want to discuss employee handbooks, that handbook section would need to be introduced here in order for a discussion to result. In general, however, even if such rules do exist in handbooks, an employer cannot be sanctioned for violating its handbook unless a complainant can show injury or harm as being a member of some protected class or one who has been terminated or suffered protected class harm. "I didn't get my break" is a meaningless, piss-ant charge in government or private sector, non-union setting. But, as always, in our society, you're certainly able to put on a warm coat and tote a piece of poster board on the sidewalk protesting your mistreatment.

Otherwise, again, get over it.

Anonymous said...

10:44pm
;-)
Ms.Crow seemed to think owning a "Kendel" was a "gotcha moment" in the posted video. Ummm?

BTW; I was gonna use "classybitch" ... but I didn't think it was stupid enough. I see you do.

Anonymous said...

10:44

AND ... if you're going to "quote" ... what I "wrote" ... make a "note".
I wrote "Kendel" ... you quoted "Kindle".

I don't get why most people from this place are so stupid and seem to be proud of it.

Stay Classy ... bitch

EQ said...

@January 11, 2014 at 7:56 AM

What in the hell are you talking about? Who is out toting signs and protesting? Again, unless you know how things are run at the Library, you may want to shut your mouth. Or since it seems so important to you that you are right about everything, feel free to call the HR person for the library ask how things are handled.

GET OVER IT!

Anonymous said...

In the latest edition of the Jackson Advocate, Mrs. Alice Thomas-Tisdale wrote a piece in her Critic's corner on the Library. It is very interesting. Now all this evidence is coming out and it appears that what this lady was standing up for is true. I hope that someone is held accountable for all this mess!



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