Wednesday, August 28, 2013

Mississippi Dems: No plutonium nyborg in Mississippi

The Mississippi Democrat Party just issued the following press release:

Nuclear Waste: Another Bad Republican Idea
 
Mississippi House Democratic Caucus Press
Contact:          Rep. Bobby Moak (601) 359-2860
 
August 28, 2013
 
Jackson, MS - In an article in today’s Clarion Ledger, Governor Phil Bryant calls opposition to the plan to store nuclear waste in Mississippi an “overreaction” and says opponents are “uninformed”. 
 
House Democratic Caucus Leader Bobby Moak (D-Bogue Chitto) said, “Republican Party leaders are the same people who brought us Pardongate, supported the raise in electricity rates now hitting families on the Gulf Coast and east Mississippi, refused billions of dollars for the healthcare industry, rejected a Mississippi-based insurance exchange in favor of federal oversight, and passed on providing affordable insurance for 300,000 Mississippians.  Now they want us to become America’s nuclear waste outpost.”
 
“Democrats in the legislature have serious questions about the potential locations for nuclear storage and the potential impact nuclear storage will have on Mississippi communities. Questions like these need to be fully vetted before the Governor and his friends begin shaming Mississippians with legitimate concerns about nuclear waste.”
 
“For our part, Democrats do not intend to stand idly by as the Governor volunteers our state as a nuclear dumping ground.  We are opposed to this proposal and ask our Republican legislative colleagues to join with us in that position.”

45 comments:

Anonymous said...

This is too important to become a partisan pissing contest.
The science matters. The facts matter.
It should not be lost that the facts STILL do not support the Richton dome as a rational choice.

It wasn't rational 3 decades ago and both MS Republicans and Democrats came to understand that.

Why are we reinventing the wheel? The book should have been closed on this.

Anonymous said...

If Grand Gulf shuts down because it can't dispose of waste, what will that do to rates Mr. moak?

You do realize that the US government detonated a nuclear bomb inside the Richton salt domes, Mr. moak?

Alas, you are a dimocrat and not the sharpest crayon in the box.

Anonymous said...

5:59 I haven't seen anyone in the Republican party or any elected official come out in favor of storing nuclear fuel in Richton. Can you show me where?

Pugnacious said...

That nuclear detonation occurred in 1964 at the Tatum Salt Dome near Basterville Oil Field. Many Gulf Oil Company oil well casing cement completions were fractured, causing saltwater to flow into fresh water aquifers.

Anonymous said...

Grand Gulf will not shut down. The WHIPP site is still in operation.

The promise of thousands of jobs and billions in revenue cannot be proven. This facility would required specialized contractors and highly skilled labor. There might be a few road builders that get some work and some manual, low paying jobs.6:55 pm, read the headlines in today's CL. Bryant called everyone opposed " ill-informed" or having an " overreaction".

He has apparently forgotten this plan was studied for years once before and both political parties,every key state and national representative of the state and finally, the federal government conceded that the Richton site is a no go.

Are we going to spend hundreds of thousands of tax dollar again to " study" this like last time ? I doubt it. We shouldn't spend a cent as the research has already been done. It sits in storage.

Who is this group making the proposal? I think we need names and know who is financing this.




Anonymous said...

5:59 no nuclear bomb in Richton. Not that it matters, but it was actually near Baxterville at the Tatum Salt Dome where the nuclear blast happened in the 60's.

Anonymous said...

5:59pm 7:56 pm is correct. What is known about the long term effect of the underground tests at Tatum is limited to what the Dept. of Defense chooses to share.

But, we do know from years of research done by the state when the federal government put the Richton salt dome on the list of possible waste sites, that it is totally unsuitable.

Why are we doing this again?

Anonymous said...

Only a dim-wit like Phil Bryant would open up the door on some issue like this. Haley must have called him about it, or maybe Henry or Austin have a client they are lobbying for that sees money in it. What a pud Bryant is, Haley might have been a lobbyist money-grubber but he was so much smarter than Phil.

Anonymous said...

King, take a look at the 990s. Johnson is double dipping for himself out of the "charity". Just gave himself a 20% raise. It is a slush fund.

bill said...

So technology hasn't changed in 30 years? I say update the studies to see if the same dangers exist. If not, then the Governor is right to try and create jobs. If so, then the Governor should lead the charge to keep the storage facility out of Mississippi. Either way, we still don't have enough information to make the decision, and those who have already made up their minds without that information are indeed ill informed and have overreacted.

Anonymous said...

Bill,any improved technology ( and I am assuming progress in reprocessing )doesn't change the geology. It doesn't change the unsuitability of dome salt.It doesn't change the weather patterns. Our methods of transport nor our transportation arteries haven't changed significantly. The waste would still be coming in primarily by rail and ship. It does not change the properties of radioactive elements.
It will NOT create jobs for Mississippians as Mississippians are not skilled in the areas needed. The socio-economics are not different.interaction with water, which is plentiful in MS.
There is no question this problem could be solved IF, instead of profit and politics driving the decision making, the same effort that was put into creating the unintended consequences ( the Manhattan Project) was put into finding solutions. We need our best scientists leading this effort, not our entrepreneurs.
And, we have more than a small obligation to future generations as some of the radioactive elements present for more than the next fiscal quarter!

Anonymous said...

By the way, who is going to pay for the necessary infrastructure improvements that will be necessary?
Last time, the feds were going to pick up the tab.
Let me guess...taxpayers and rate payers?

Anonymous said...

No nuke trash in Ms! No bullshit! Not here!! If you are one of the morons that are cool with this, put your family next door to where it will be placed!!! Assholes!!

Anonymous said...

well- southern miss could change its mascot to the glowing golden eagles if theres a problem!

Anonymous said...


Wait a minute...Isn't the current storage site in New Mexico a government site? Isn't there a reason our high level waste is controlled by DOE/DOD? Savannah River and every other site dealing is owned by DOE or DOD.
What is this Mississippi Energy Institute?
Is a commercial site even legal?
Where are they buying the containers if this isn't a DOE project , from the French?
If they are going to reprocess, who are they going to sell it to?
What is the federal role in this?
There SHOULD be one.
Something isn't right about this.
They are either a front group for the feds, in which case, our citizens should be outraged by the deceit, or a bunch of con men.
Do these guys even have the knowledge and experience if they aren't a front for a current governement contractor like URC? This would have to be a high tech mine shaft with an underground facility that, among other things, can't be bombed.
Something is very fishy here and apparently our Governor is either not asking the right questions and just seeing dollar signs or is complicit.

Anonymous said...

Bill, technology has changed. But, it was never the technology, it was the geology. It's the dome salt that is the problem. It is the ability to respond in a timely way to the weather patterns so you can secure all the cannisters.
You understand that this is first of all, a mine shaft.

Anonymous said...

Jed Clampett, aka Feel Bryant, is simply a puppet in the process. Whoever pushed his button on this one, and handed him a script is watching it play out, sitting in a big chair in front of a flat screen, drinking Crown and Coke.

Bryant would actually be dangerous if he had a teleprompter.

Anonymous said...

What is this....Day 16 and still no toxicology results? And Kingfish has removed all mention of the girl from Madison, found in the woods. Hmmmmm.

Now, back to LaRita in 3-2-1.

Anonymous said...

@ 8:39.

The State of Mississippi now owns and controls the Salmon Site of the Tatum Salt Dome nuclear detonations.

The feds didn't exactly say Richton was unsuitable. Of the 5 sites that were finalists, 3 were salt domes, Richton being one.

Anonymous said...

If this is our best effort at economic development, we're getting mighty desperate. Maybe we can start offering all of the gulleys in Mississippi as landfills for the mountains of trash generated by larger cities while we're at it. Perhaps we could find a way to store sewage from neighboring states so that they don't have to deal with the smell. There could be big money in that.

Anonymous said...

Just give the Nuclear Waste to Scott Walker and Joe Cloyd....it will disappear faster than you can say Workforce Housing. And I'm sure they must be experts in nuclear waste disposal as they seem to be experts in everything else tied to other people's money.

Anonymous said...

7:52 am...officially, no...in house , yes and the siting program was abandoned as a result. The other two, as I recall were granite and in highly populated areas and then there's the commercial value of granite. There selections were going nowhere as they banked on the least political resistance. The granite was never seriously pursued. They spent the bulk of their time here hoping they could confound bubba with those big words.

Anonymous said...

7:52 am Don't you want to share what that means in terms of responsibilities and what is being monitored?

Anonymous said...

I see that Patrick Sullivan is President of MEI. Is this the same Patrick Sullivan that worked for Haley and also Lester "Beef Plant" Spell? Is this the same Patrick Sullivan that, as a member of the Mississippi Land, Water and Timber Resources Board, voted to fund the Beef Plant? Is this the same Patrick Sullivan that went to France with Phil Bryant and toured a nuclear recycling facility? Wonder who paid for "Cowboy Phil's" trip?

Anonymous said...

The ignorance shown by all the posters here that have taken this he Richton Salt Dome and "nuclear waste storage" must be Stan (no issue too good to popularize and make into a cause) Flint's cousins and neighbors!


The proposal that was discussed Monday about a 'nuclear fuel' project is not anything like the national nuclear waste fuel storage facility that was considered for Richton decades ago. But evidently 8/28 5:59 chose to ignore this little detail and opened up the discussion and a half dozen others jump on the "waste storage/Richton" bandwagon.

Read the details - and quit your Brandon Presley type popularism. As I read it, the proposal was to take spent nuclear fuel and reprocess it. From there, it will be sold and reused. It could be done most anywhere but specifically does not require a salt dome type facility because it wouldn't be for long-term / forever storage.

I don't know if it is a good idea or not. But I do know it has nothing to do with what many of the comments on this site have said, just as lobbyist Flint's comments have nothing to do with the facts either. But, no surprise there, its his stock in trade.

Anonymous said...

Thanks 9:01 am...now we know this IS a scam.

Anonymous said...

Yes; The same Patrick Sullivan. He's one of Haley's "Up and Comers" sorta like the Yoste boys usta be. In other words, he's developed as a 'good soldier'.

Anonymous said...

Dear Lord, I hope this does not come to Mississippi.

Anonymous said...

I saw Stan Flint dressed up in as a cow one time holding a sign that said "NO MORE BULL" He got his point across.9:40 must be Josh or Quinten and sound mad because Gov.Phildo is running around making all of these conflicting statements like "That is your neighbor's lawnmower fumes not crude oil you are smelling." Drives them bonkers. You go Stan,you and Louie have the high road on this one.Josh and Quinten are still sore from the pickling of Pickering at Joe's a couple a weeks ago.

Anonymous said...

Focus people, this is important. 9:01 is exactly on the money. I wonder if there is a board member of MEI that has a client trying to locate a nuclear recycling plant in Mississippi because the project is a no go in another state they have already approached, i.e., Texas?

Remind me again why Phil went to the Paris Air Show?

Anonymous said...

12:13 - good question. And at least you got the facts correct. A "recycling plant", not a storage facility. Understand that Natchez wants it - far cry from Richton.

Anonymous said...

Feel went to Paris to try some S-car-go? To hang out with other 3rd World Leaders? I give up Why did Feel cross the ocean? To get to the other side? I am still trying but I can not come up with a good reason.

Anonymous said...

Aug 29, 7:17

You are lying or don't know how to run a search on this website (hint: look for the words "search on this website" on KF's home page.

Try here:

http://kingfish1935.blogspot.com/2013/08/search-is-still-on-for-abigail-bonner.html

nothing has been taken down.

Anonymous said...

He used to have a FORE-OH-WUN-KAY. Maybe he was rolling it offshore.

Anonymous said...

Sam Hall has some interesting info on his blog over at the Clarion Ledger:

http://blogs.clarionledger.com/samrhall/2013/08/28/bryant-visited-french-nuclear-recycling-facility-in-june-with-mei-president/

Phil is not telling the public the truth. Wonder why?

Anonymous said...

9:40 am you are showing YOUR ignorance.

Tell me how you are going to do a " fuel project" involving nuclear materials without storing spent fuel on site????

You can use all the euphemisms you want, but the problems are the same.

Trying to draw on Presley and Flint negative images is a tactic that you wouldn't need if the facts supported your position.

You are banking on everyone being as gullible and easily bought as our Governor apparently is!

So...really lie and tell us there is no unused spent fuel.




Anonymous said...

Spamming Sam Hall over here @ JJ. LMAO.

Anonymous said...

Natchez? Well, it'd be marginally better than Richton given it's proximity to the MS River and the weather patterns, but they'd better build a really, really good above ground facility with first rate security far enough from the river and with great plans, when it becomes obsolete to seal it properly.

I feel like I'm watching a Mickey Rooney /Judy Garland movie. " I've got an idea, let's do a play!".

Just because you've seen a Broadway play, doesn't mean you can produce or star in one and have it be successful!

Kingfish said...

I do not know enough about this matter to make a comment. Don't know the history and haven't looked at the science. I suspect the same goes for most commenting on both sides.

What is France's nuclear safety record, by the way?

Kingfish said...

I do not know enough about this matter to make a comment. Don't know the history and haven't looked at the science. I suspect the same goes for most commenting on both sides.

What is France's nuclear safety record, by the way?

Anonymous said...

It's very good, KF, but they have approached nuclear energy in a scientific way. That is why they are far ahead of us.
They see providing power to the citizens as a responsibility, not as a business. They consider it part of their national security policy.
In the end, it's not about the safety of nuclear energy. I've never had any doubt it could be safe.
It's about the suitability of both the Richton dome and our State's ability to be home to such a facility.

Anonymous said...

KF...look up Sen. Stennis' high tech effort in MS that still needs to be guarded by the feds.
This will be the same for the same reasons.

Anonymous said...

Let me post my previous post from days ago to start:
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Only a dim-wit like Phil Bryant would open up the door on some issue like this. Haley must have called him about it, or maybe Henry or Austin have a client they are lobbying for that sees money in it. What a pud Bryant is, Haley might have been a lobbyist money-grubber but he was so much smarter than Phil.

August 28, 2013 at 9:06 PM

NOTICE I MENTION THE BARBOUR CLAN BEING AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS IN ORDER TO REPRESENT A CLIENT THAT SEES $$$ IN THIS WHOLE NUCLEAR ISSUE. NOW I PROVIDE THE EVIDENCE, THE LINK, PATRICK SULLIVAN, MEI PRESIDENT, WHO ACCOMPANIED BRYANT ON THE TRIP TO THE FRENCH NUCLEAR SITE AND COMPANY THIS PAST JUNE, HE WORKS FOR AUSTIN BARBOUR, OWNER OF CLEARWATER GROUP, AS A LOBBYIST:

TABLE 1: All Clients of SULLIVAN, PATRICK ↑Client↑ States Years Associated Contributors
CLEARWATER GROUP, LLC
Uncoded MS 2012 1 possible contributor matches totalling $300
CLEARWATER GROUP, LLC
Uncoded MS 2012 1 possible contributor matches totalling $300
MISSISSIPPI ENERGY POLICY INSTITUTE
Uncoded MS 2012

Stan Flint said...

Lot's of anonymous comments here. This is an open offer to debate anyone regarding nuclear waste. Television, radio or other media. Of course, that would require self-identification.

Stan Flint

BTW - someone else was in the bull costume. I was next to them carrying a 4'x8' sign that said, "BULL". Different issue, but the word applies to this proposal also.

Anonymous said...

I put my money on Mr. Flint in any debate on this subject as he made a point of being well informed during the siting selection process. He knows the Avery Island tests results , the problems at the WHIPP site and about the late Dr. Freudenberg's research.

I would remind everyone that Mr. Flint was Mike Moore's and Mike Parker's campaign manager and went to DC with Parker. He's nobody's fool when it comes to politics. Underestimate him at your peril.



Recent Comments

Search Jackson Jambalaya

Subscribe to JJ's Youtube channel

Archives

Trollfest '09

Trollfest '07 was such a success that Jackson Jambalaya will once again host Trollfest '09. Catch this great event which will leave NE Jackson & Fondren in flames. Othor Cain and his band, The Black Power Structure headline the night while Sonjay Poontang returns for an encore performance. Former Frank Melton bodyguard Marcus Wright makes his premier appearance at Trollfest singing "I'm a Sweet Transvestite" from "The Rocky Horror Picture Show." Kamikaze will sing his new hit, “How I sold out to da Man.” Robbie Bell again performs: “Mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be Bells” and “Any friend of Ed Peters is a friend of mine”. After the show, Ms. Bell will autograph copies of her mug shot photos. In a salute to “Dancing with the Stars”, Ms. Bell and Hinds County District Attorney Robert Smith will dance the Wango Tango.

Wrestling returns, except this time it will be a Battle Royal with Othor Cain, Ben Allen, Kim Wade, Haley Fisackerly, Alan Lange, and “Big Cat” Donna Ladd all in the ring at the same time. The Battle Royal will be in a steel cage, no time limit, no referee, and the losers must leave town. Marshand Crisler will be the honorary referee (as it gives him a title without actually having to do anything).


Meet KIM Waaaaaade at the Entergy Tent. For five pesos, Kim will sell you a chance to win a deed to a crack house on Ridgeway Street stuffed in the Howard Industries pinata. Don't worry if the pinata is beaten to shreds, as Mr. Wade has Jose, Emmanuel, and Carlos, all illegal immigrants, available as replacements for the it. Upon leaving the Entergy tent, fig leaves will be available in case Entergy literally takes everything you have as part of its Trollfest ticket price adjustment charge.

Donna Ladd of The Jackson Free Press will give several classes on learning how to write. Smearing, writing without factchecking, and reporting only one side of a story will be covered. A donation to pay their taxes will be accepted and she will be signing copies of their former federal tax liens. Ms. Ladd will give a dramatic reading of her two award-winning essays (They received The Jackson Free Press "Best Of" awards.) "Why everything is always about me" and "Why I cover murders better than anyone else in Jackson".

In the spirit of helping those who are less fortunate, Trollfest '09 adopts a cause for which a portion of the proceeds and donations will be donated: Keeping Frank Melton in his home. The “Keep Frank Melton From Being Homeless” booth will sell chances for five dollars to pin the tail on the jackass. John Reeves has graciously volunteered to be the jackass for this honorable excursion into saving Frank's ass. What's an ass between two friends after all? If Mr. Reeves is unable to um, perform, Speaker Billy McCoy has also volunteered as when the word “jackass” was mentioned he immediately ran as fast as he could to sign up.


In order to help clean up the legal profession, Adam Kilgore of the Mississippi Bar will be giving away free, round-trip plane tickets to the North Pole where they keep their bar complaint forms (which are NOT available online). If you don't want to go to the North Pole, you can enjoy Brant Brantley's (of the Mississippi Commission on Judicial Performance) free guided tours of the quicksand field over by High Street where all complaints against judges disappear. If for some reason you are unable to control yourself, never fear; Judge Houston Patton will operate his jail where no lawyers are needed or allowed as you just sit there for minutes... hours.... months...years until he decides he is tired of you sitting in his jail. Do not think Judge Patton is a bad judge however as he plans to serve free Mad Dog 20/20 to all inmates.

Trollfest '09 is a pet-friendly event as well. Feel free to bring your dog with you and do not worry if your pet gets hungry, as employees of the Jackson Zoo will be on hand to provide some of their animals as food when it gets to be feeding time for your little loved one.

Relax at the Fox News Tent. Since there are only three blonde reporters in Jackson (being blonde is a requirement for working at Fox News), Megan and Kathryn from WAPT and Wendy from WLBT will be on loan to Fox. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both and a torn-up Obama yard sign will entitle you to free drinks served by Megan, Wendy, and Kathryn. Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required. Just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '09 is for EVERYONE!!!

This is definitely a Beaver production.


Note: Security provided by INS.

Trollfest '07

Jackson Jambalaya is the home of Trollfest '07. Catch this great event which promises to leave NE Jackson & Fondren in flames. Sonjay Poontang and his band headline the night with a special steel cage, no time limit "loser must leave town" bout between Alan Lange and "Big Cat"Donna Ladd following afterwards. Kamikaze will perform his new song F*** Bush, he's still a _____. Did I mention there was no referee? Dr. Heddy Matthias and Lori Gregory will face off in the undercard dueling with dangling participles and other um, devices. Robbie Bell will perform Her two latest songs: My Best Friends are in the Media and Mama's, Don't Let Your Babies Grow up to be George Bell. Sid Salter of The Clarion-Ledger will host "Pin the Tail on the Trial Lawyer", sponsored by State Farm.

There will be a hugging booth where in exchange for your young son, Frank Melton will give you a loooong hug. Trollfest will have a dunking booth where Muhammed the terrorist will curse you to Allah as you try to hit a target that will drop him into a vat of pig grease. However, in the true spirit of Separate But Equal, Don Imus and someone from NE Jackson will also sit in the dunking booth for an equal amount of time. Tom Head will give a reading for two hours on why he can't figure out who the hell he is. Cliff Cargill will give lessons with his .80 caliber desert eagle, using Frank Melton photos as targets. Tackleberry will be on hand for an autograph session. KIM Waaaaaade will be passing out free titles and deeds to crackhouses formerly owned by The Wood Street Players.

If you get tired come relax at the Fox News Tent. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both will entitle you to free drinks.Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required, just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '07 is for EVERYONE!!!

This is definitely a Beaver production.

Note: Security provided by INS
.